'A bit less Han Solo, a bit more Yoda'

Podcaster and journalist Mike Sassi interviewed me for his Nottingham Business School podcast, where he is an honorary visiting professor.

In a wide-ranging discussion, we talked about the changing face of leadership, the importance of soft skills, the need to listen more, and the value of humility.

In a nutshell, my main message can be summarised as: 'Try to be a bit less Han Solo and a bit more Yoda.'

Below is a link to our conversation, which runs for around 26 minutes.